|  Lefter | May 16, 3:33pm | ok... Let's look at a different point of view.
We know there are good peace loving Arabs, at least I do.
Now they may have cultural opinions that we in the West would choke on, but we have to acknowledge that when it comes to good and band there is a bell curve.
So... Can the W.O.T. be won, yes. We are winning it.
What do we have to do? Kill more Terrorists/ Jihadists.
How many more, -Well... That is not an enigma.
Let's look:
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| | humbleInfidel | May 16, 8:20pm | I agree with you there are some peace loving Arabs - and we can win the War On Terrorism.
Let's look? |
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Sponsor |  fire75034 | May 16, 9:11pm | Shhh you cant say W.O.T. anymore.
You might offend the peace loving Arabs. |
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| | humbleInfidel | May 16, 9:33pm | | They can't handle the truth. That's their problem not mine |
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Sponsor | | fire75034 | May 17, 5:20pm | | Usama Bin Laden the clock is ticking his last breath on this earth is coming very soon. |
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| | Lefter | May 17, 10:22pm | I got side-tracked the other night.. The point was, the number of people that "have to be killed" is not as large as some may think.
Good diplomacy brings that number down. Just as effectively as bullets and bombs. The current generation of Wahabist and hardline Arabs espousing violent Jihad in the Madras will be replaced by another generation, THAT is where the hope lies.
Let's call Iraq and Afghanistan the two main theater of war,
On an organizational level in Iraq you have these loose affiliations, they break down as people you can trust, people you can work with, people you will never trust and will always try to kill you.
It's a fluid scenario, when the Mullahs say it's on, it's on. And their followers will go and get all whipped up into a frenzy and off they go to meet their virgins.
Here's a nifty graphic:
All those groups in the green are loosely "o.k." these are super generalizations but useful for describing the allegiances and alliances.
These guys out on the fringes, these are the folks that need killin' -and it is NOT an infinite number.
Pound the Lebanese, Iranian and Syrian people that are aiding them (along with anyone else you catch) and those forces will dry up and go home.
Maybe they will want better for their kids, and come to despise war, as many old Soldiers do.
Now, let's look at Islam in the bigger picture:
I made the comment that we know all Arabs are not bad.
-What we need to know is: HOW MANY ARE BAD... How many are active in violent Jihad, etc. that's where the following graphic comes in handy:
If you believe the numbers:
It's certainly not a quagmire, or a lost cause, the idea is to kill those willing to meet on the battlefield and do your best to defend against those who would attack innocents. |
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| | humbleInfidel | May 17, 11:39pm | Hey Nate I like the avatar!!!
5)It'll be a glorious day for the world.
Lefter what do you say about their islamic doctrine to lie to the enemy to gain them battle positions? I'm having a hard time thinking any muslim can not want to kill us and themselves for the Quran teaches them to do that. I really think the only ones who don't want to kill us is the ones who are forced to be muslim or other wise they would not be. After reading the quran....I can't imagine a true muslim not following it to a t. |
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| | Lefter | May 18, 1:55am | They have to evolve... All we can do is facilitate or expedite the process. By attrition if that is the only option given. And remember, the number of Arabs willing to die or kill are a population whose density would center around that small black A.Q. dot in the 2nd pic.
These people would diminish in frequency the furthere away from that black area you go, -still fewer in the Sunni's and even fewer in the Islamists.
Remember, these Palestinians have been using retarded boys and girls in recent years, because well... Martyrdom, while perfectly suitable for young retarded boys is just no way for young Palestinian to get ahead in this World.
The Hardline Islamists fighting in the streets of Iraq for the Militias are Soldiers. And they are getting cordoned off and split up.
The Iraqi's don't want 'em, so they end up in these Militias, easier to find and kill.
Re: The doctrine that allows a Muslim to "lie to the war." This is a needle in the haystack of bigger and more deadly Arab hypocrisies.
The term "Arab hypocrisy" is like "Water Wetness"... And their hypocrisy is often a means of fabricating an argument designed to prove that a lie is the truth.
(Much like our far Left Liberal friends here in the West formulate their own arguments.) e.g. "WE ARE FOR TOLERANCE, UNLESS IT INVOLVES YOUR BIBLE AND YOUR MORALITY WE HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR MORALS OR DECENCY!"
I say, we can only focus on going after the infrastructure, and the combatants.
Every time Iran brings a reactor on-line, we blow it up, continue the blockades, stay aggressive on the money-trail, seize arms shipments en route, Attack border supply lines.
This is a Holy War to them, -we are forced to behave like Traffic Cops and treat them with kid-gloves. Oops Abhu-Ghraib I forgot. We make naked pyramids and force them to wear underoos on their heads.
Can you imagine a War where a hidden un-uniformed sniper, shoots a Soldier in the chest, the Soldier survives the direct hit thanks to body-armor and he returns fire on the sniper and -then- goes over and renders medical aid to the wounded sniper and ends up saving his life?????????
Any question about who's the good guy here?
Combatants in Iraq are no longer "FREEDOM FIGHTERS" Or "HEROES", -as our Liberal friends love to call them...
If you are a bad guy in Iraq, out to kill folks and plant IED's, You aren't a freedom fighter, you are a WANTED MAN, and it ain't just Coalition forces that are shutting these guys down.
It took 10 years for this sort of crap to die down in Germany after WWII.
So we have to give this some time.
Bible Prophecy says Babylon will become a fantastic place once again before the end of times. -Let it be. (THIS PROPHECY IS HIGHLY LIKELY) because I believe Arab and Western Culture will ultimately come together in peace, and it will be like the Unifications of Egypt and VAST technological and cultural changes sweep the Earth and everyone benefits, it has happened twice History past. When two diverse cultures collide, the exchange of ideas leads to an explosion of knowledge, ideas, art, technology, abundance, prosperity, invention and I say Spirituality.
Look at our relationship with Japan, a Country we nuked only a few short decades ago.
SAD TO SAY, We face the beginning of a long Militaristic period, of challenges, attacks, we will have a draft again, and their will be more wars and rumors of wars.
We will take a nuclear hit, and we will not respond in kind.
We will adjudicateit. And various blue ribbon panels will be convened.
The potheads will all write conspiracy theories about it and PrisonPlanet will get 10 million hits a day, as Alex Jones blames the Evil Jews and the Illuminati along with Prescott Bush's re-animated Corpse for Nuking America.
Some African-American, born in Mississippi who converted to Islam in Prison will be tried for planting the nuke. Even though he confesses, -He will be found NOT GUILTY, due to Jury Nullification by an all Arab Jury from Tonawanda N.Y.
He will spend the rest of his life Golfing with O.J. and doing occasional guest appearances on The View, Oprah and he will eventually replace Keith Olbermann. |
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| | humbleInfidel | May 19, 2:49pm | | Well said Lefter. I can see all of this playing out. What will be interesting will be to hear the liberals twist on the events. They will blame any and everyone except themselves or the perpetrators. |
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| | Lefter | May 20, 9:22am | AMEN on that....
This tells the story there:
Like Hamas burning up the phone banks for Obama LOL!!!! |
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